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in june of 2003, members of this and other xjw forums were informed of the availability of the "watchtower bookshelf cd," and in that initial announcement they were told:

"...the wt bs cd is being distributed as freeware to seekers of truth everywhere.

many expressed an interest in the project, which was very gratifying.

David apparently had a 'Bathsheba' moment and thought no one would notice. Seems like a 'Nathan' exposed that David as well. Looks like another one of those parallel prophetic fulfillments. Good job Nathan.

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586/587 the K.I.S.S. approach --- no VAT4956, Ptolemy, Josephus needed

by Alleymom in

nabonidus -- 17 years.

nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.

nabonidus -- 17 years

no one

Marjorie,

To address your 1st post, I would like to remind you that the WT had to come up with their understanding of the lengths for the kings from SOME source, whether it be Josephus, VAT, etc.

I think that for some of us here, the struggle with chronology has gone beyond the WTS/biblical scholars debate.

If the WTS is wrong (and I feel that they are; not just on the 607 thing, but on several points) and the Bible is still considered inspired (yes by some, no by others), there remains a need to try to understand the prophetic books that point to the end times. If the Bible is true, is it the end now or not?

JCanon's posts are overwhelming, to say the least, but I like to try wading thru them because, right or wrong, he is trying to make sense of the prophetic literature. Some people have had enough and throw up their hands and say that God doesn't exist or the Bible is uninspired, etc. Some here were never Witnesses, but are still trying to make sense of Daniel, Ezekiel, Revelation.

I believe in God, but I'm frustated that He has been so ambiguous in His info with us. I personally have doubts as to the Bible being inspired. Yet, it nags at me the things a few of these visionaries said. Was the writer of Daniel yanking our chain as the beginning of a running joke? And having seen it, the writer of Revelation decides to REALLY mess with our minds? I have trouble buying that. Granted, I/we could be wrong and it really is all just myth, and time seems to be busy supporting that notion.

JCanon and others who speculate on chronology may be dead wrong, but I admire them because they haven't yet thrown in the towel. Maybe they (we, I) should. But for mathmetically stimulated minds, it's a puzzle we feel we can solve if given enough time and the ability to look at it from just the correct angle.

Crazy? I suppose, to some. But for some of us, our check book HAS to balance to the penny every month for year after year or we have to do the math to find out why.

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Old Publications

by Ariell in

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does anyone know if the society keeps a library of publications dating from the late 1800's into the early 1900's and whether or not bethelites have access to them?

no one

Welcome to the forum. You can read articles from the Watchtowers from 1879-1916 here:

http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbv5/links.htm

For additional reading of some of the early WT works, like 'Divine Plan of the Ages', here:

http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbv5/start.htm

Enjoy!!!

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Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

by ros in

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i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

no one

Thanks for posting the link, ros.

After searching for this book for over a year, I found myself unable to donate my credit card number to an unverified e-mail address on a newly-created web site containing numerous spelling and typo errors made by a linguistic expert. I would hope that his English translation of the book and his efforts at presenting his arguments isn't as shoddy as the effort he put into that web site.

I was also amused at his 'word of caution' paragraph:

Ancient history cannot be proven, because there are no living informants. And any attempt to make a chronological scheme of the kings of ancient nations is tentative.

I wonder why this same statement couldn't also be used as a disclaimer for accepting someone's interpretation of biblical chronology which has to use a secular chronological scheme as its foundation.

If anyone finds another source for ordering this book, I would appreciate the information.

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Quiz: Where did your soul originate?

by Sirona in

i took the quiz and i got:.

you come from an ancient civilization.

egypt,.

no one

My soul came from the 1960s via the music of Otis Redding and Sam & Dave.

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Who owns the fish?

by no one in

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there are five houses in five different colours.

in each house lives a person with a different nationality.

the five owners drink a certain type of beverage, smoke a certain brand of cigar, and keep a certain pet.

no one

There are five houses in five different colours. In each house lives a person with a different nationality. The five owners drink a certain type of beverage, smoke a certain brand of cigar, and keep a certain pet. No owners have the same pet, smoke the same brand of cigar, or drink the same beverage. Also, the following information is available:

The Brit lives in the red house.
The Swede keeps dogs as pets.
The Dane drinks tea.
The green house is on the left of the white house.
The green home owner drinks coffee.
The person who smokes Pall Mall rears birds.
The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhill.
The man living in the centre house drinks milk.
The Norwegian lives in the first house.
The man who smokes Blend lives next to the one who keeps cats.
The man who keeps the horse lives next to the man who smokes Dunhill.
The owner who smokes Bluemaster drinks beer.
The German smokes Prince.
The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.
The man who smokes Blend has a neighbour who drinks water.

That are all the clues that are required to solve it; now the question is :

Who owns the fish ?